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Old May 28, 2009, 03:47 AM // 03:47   #21
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BB sins have no utility, so, no care ?
yeh pretty much
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Old May 28, 2009, 07:00 AM // 07:00   #22
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DAGGER WARRIOR

Way of the Empty Palm
Burst of Aggression
Golden Phoenix Strike
Horns of the Ox
Falling Spider
Twisting Fangs
Power Attack
Res

Horns rules under stonefists.
WotEP
GPS
HotO
FSpider
BoS
Impale
Burst/Frenzy
Res/Dash

because Twisting sucks at 0 Crit etc
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Old May 28, 2009, 09:40 AM // 09:40   #23
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Hi, my name is 2 pips of energy regeneration.
How are you?
Sup, I'm Falling lotus strike Zealous Daggers, i'm quite good. And you?
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Old May 28, 2009, 10:07 AM // 10:07   #24
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Please go back to the original build, it is just a "variation" of the BB one. Only that staying Assa primary isnt needed.
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Old May 28, 2009, 10:18 AM // 10:18   #25
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What about Magehunter smash instead Dev hammer? 1 more adren, but almost a guaranted KD?
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Old May 28, 2009, 10:39 AM // 10:39   #26
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just tested it in HB, (note : i havent play BB sin before heh, EVER) - makes wonders with some AOE spells and i switched Dev hammer (way too conditional KD) for Magehunters Smash, adjusted attributes abit (8+1 hammer, 12 dagger, 11+1+1 str).

Works good
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Old May 28, 2009, 12:56 PM // 12:56   #27
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Actually looks like a really fun and capable build. It can quarter knock and lock its target for a full 9 seconds and deals a crap load of energy. Definably fine on energy, im sure there are a lot of builds which can make use of this character. Good thinking imo.
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Old May 28, 2009, 05:14 PM // 17:14   #28
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Thanks At least someone tried it.
And yeah, I took dev hammer because I tested it mainly in RA and TA, but you can take whichever kd you like.

I am still wondering what would be the best attributes.

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Old May 28, 2009, 11:35 PM // 23:35   #29
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DAGGER WARRIOR

Way of the Empty Palm
Burst of Aggression
Golden Phoenix Strike
Horns of the Ox
Falling Spider
Twisting Fangs
Power Attack
Res

Horns rules under stonefists.
But what about enchantment removal?

Oh ya, and i dont understand why you need 13 hammer for just one skill, dev hammer, i would put it 9 with 13 strength.
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Old May 29, 2009, 01:02 AM // 01:02   #30
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You need it for crushing blow. And I still cant decide between 12-3 strength and 13 hammer.
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Old May 29, 2009, 01:18 AM // 01:18   #31
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oh hey my name's falling lotus strike, what's up?
Why wouldn't you just run an assassin?
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Old May 29, 2009, 02:14 AM // 02:14   #32
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Why wouldn't you just run an assassin?
And that's the real problem with this build.

It's not great and its no better then what can be run by another class (and even then, its strictly a RA level thing, has no real practical use and a single block will take you out of the fight for the entire match)
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Old May 29, 2009, 11:38 AM // 11:38   #33
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Well, on a master of damage it can deal a good 620 damage over 9 seconds. It could definably see play in HA with RoJ and other character. I guess in ra anything can be ran and this would also work there. As far as the whole "if you get blocked your done for" that applies to just about any sin build so I think the op acknowledged that fact when he made it. Your combo recharges quite fast so the block shouldn't really be to big a deal and in HA and the likes you can have team assist to prevent blocking. 2 of these in HA spiking at the same time with RoJ probably guarantees a kill, the question is how would you catch your target to kill it.
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Old May 29, 2009, 08:59 PM // 20:59   #34
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And why would I run an assassin with this ? It is the same damage (prove me wrong ?) and less armor ?

I'm sure it can work in HA, just like any BB build out there, but maybe a bit better since you have more armor, less downtime and more kd ? Only big flaw is the speed >.< There must be something. Incoming Rit support ?
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Old May 29, 2009, 09:02 PM // 21:02   #35
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It could definably see play in HA with RoJ and other character.
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I'm sure it can work in HA, just like any BB build out there
Yeah, Horns of the Ox is super good in tombs.
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Old May 29, 2009, 10:04 PM // 22:04   #36
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You can still skip it during the spike. Or take BB and death blossom instead. I want it to work >.<

EDIT : And for those that just want to take assassin primary ... it just doesnt work. You need the rune to extend each kd to 3sec to pull out the whole quarterknocking combo and keep your target on the ground for 9secs.

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Old Jun 01, 2009, 10:42 PM // 22:42   #37
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You can still skip it during the spike. Or take BB and death blossom instead. I want it to work >.<

EDIT : And for those that just want to take assassin primary ... it just doesnt work. You need the rune to extend each kd to 3sec to pull out the whole quarterknocking combo and keep your target on the ground for 9secs.
who said sins use that build for their bb sin?
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Old Jun 02, 2009, 11:04 AM // 11:04   #38
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Why wouldn't you just run an assassin?
I answered this.

And this is merely a variation of the BB build, not using twisting fangs, with covered deep wound.
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